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Post by symonh2000 on Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:03 pm

Hello Everyone, this is my first post so please be patient and apologies if this is in the wrong section.

I am coming back to CB after many years off the air, and would like some information with regard to rigs.

I am sure many people prefer old school equipment such as the rigs that I am used to, such as Audioline's, Rotels's, and Maxcoms.

I have spoken with a few people who swear that old school rigs are the best, but at the same time I am tempted by a new rig. I know technology moves on and technically a new rig will be better.

What is likely to perform better? I know that there is some nostalgia about using older equipment and that I fully appreciate but at the same time I am not stuck in the past.

I am half tenpted to buy something like a Uniden 200, and half tempted to buy a new Multi-standard set.

Opinions welcome.

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Re: Ols School v's newer equipment.

Post by mof000 on Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:18 pm

Believe it or not some of the older radios are better built than some of the modern radios.
Simon has reviewed quite a lot of modern radios on this forum so hopefully this should give you an insight to some of them.
I bought an albrecht ae 6890 after looking at the review that simon had done on this forum and i'm very happy with it. I carried out a simple mod on the radio so that it is possible to rx/tx from 25615 to 28000 mhz(off the top of my head) which is also a bonus!!!
It all really depends on what you are after just local chit chat or maybe a spot of dx,for which your needs will change probably to a multi mode rado

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Re: Ols School v's newer equipment.

Post by symonh2000 on Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:35 pm

Cheers Mof000, I was hoping to do a bit of chit chat and the odd bit of DX on the local hills.
I have a Midland 77-104 that I can use for chit chat but it is quite old and tired now.

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Re: Ols School v's newer equipment.

Post by mof000 on Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:18 pm

If your interested in doing the dx side of things do you wish to stick to fm or use am/ssb ?

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Re: Ols School v's newer equipment.

Post by symonh2000 on Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:08 pm

Not sure I would use the AM/SSB for transmit due to the legal aspects, but I suppose it would be nice to have just in case, and for listening of course.

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Re: Ols School v's newer equipment.

Post by mof000 on Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:36 pm

As you are well aware am/ssb is illegal in the uk although there are plenty of of people who use these modes and have done for years with no repercussions!!!
Being a foundation licence holder i don't want to promote illegal activity on the cb bands but you would be one of many and if i'm honest is's where i started from!!!!
This obviously wouldn't stop you from rxing any qso's on these frequencies to keep you above the law!!!!!

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Re: Ols School v's newer equipment.

Post by daxi on Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:52 pm

Do you use Freecycle? I have several bits of radio sitting around that I have acquired for free via Freecycle. I several old FM CB's that one day I will get around to converting to 10 meters, a couple of SWR meters which I have used to convert old ATU's to 50 Ohm input with & on one occasion around 6 carrier bags of amateur equipment that included some very expensive brass Morse keys, some valve equipment schematics & a couple of power supplies.
One question that may be worth asking yourself before spending money, is what is your local activity like? & would a cheap toe in the water first be worth a consideration?

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Re: Ols School v's newer equipment.

Post by symonh2000 on Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:14 pm

There are a few people on air in my location although things are a lot quieter than they were a few years ago. I live around 1 mile from my parents house and as we have a baby on the way soon it would be ideal to keep in touch with them.

I will take a look on freecycle. I am quite handy at repairing things, so I can probably fix up some non working rigs if need be.

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Re: Ols School v's newer equipment.

Post by daxi on Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:53 pm

All of the equipment I have was in full working order, although one did need some switch cleaner on the squelch

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Re: Ols School v's newer equipment.

Post by symonh2000 on Sat May 01, 2010 7:13 pm

Well today I picked this up. It is virtually mint, unmolested and it worked perfectly when connected to by brothers aerial.

All I need to do now is sort myself an Aerial and I will be on air, although it might be a few weeks as I move house soon.

What do you reckon?






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Re: Ols School v's newer equipment.

Post by 2W0PWR on Sat May 01, 2010 9:30 pm

Great stuff, well done. I had a Homebase CB when I first started out and was a good way to keep wires to a minimum. Think it was a Realistic 3000. Look at all that space u have in there, will be easy to fix :-)

I would recommend an Antron 99 for a homebase antenna. A mid range antenna which won't snap at the first bit of wind...

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Post by symonh2000 on Sat May 01, 2010 9:39 pm

The last time I was on air a few years back I had an Antron 99, but I have long since sold it.
Unfortunately where I am moving I may not be allowed to put up an outdoor aerial, so I may have to make one to fit in the attic. I have had good results in the past with full quaterwave lengths of wire.

I paid £31 for the Audioline by the way.

A friend of mine had a Realistic home base many years ago I cannot remember which one it was but it was a UK 27/81 set.

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Post by porky.69 on Tue May 04, 2010 6:14 pm

nice rig the audioline .

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Post by daxi on Tue May 04, 2010 6:57 pm

If you are going to use wire in the attic, it may pay to think, can I get away with an outside wire?.
All any antenna is, is a length of radiating metal & the Anton 99 is a half wave length of wire shunt fed inside a hollow tube which performs about as well as any half wave of wire, fed via a quarter wave of loading coil where a short length of coax is used to phase the antenna into a 50 ohm match.
The short length of coax is the shunt feed, this is used to match a three quarter wave length of wire (that's what a quarter of a wave length of very thin loading coil, plus a half wave of radiating element is,) into 50 ohms as by nature it should be 75 ohms.

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Re: Ols School v's newer equipment.

Post by symonh2000 on Tue May 04, 2010 8:19 pm

Cheers Guys.

I will have to wait until I move in to see what I can get away with antenna wise. I know I won't be able to fix anything to the house as it is private rented.

I have been thinking of using an old fishing rod and some wires to make a Quaterwave ground plane antenna. A blank bit of fibreglass stuck on something will look quite discreet and should work ok.

In the meantime I am thinking of buying a Danita 3000 multi for a spot of White horse hill DX-ing.

On the Subject of Antron 99's..A few years back I changed from a 1/2 wave silver rod to an Antron 99 and the Antron 99 definitely performed better, by around 1 S point on recieve. Either I had a Good Antron or a Poor Silver rod.

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Post by porky.69 on Wed May 05, 2010 12:20 pm

hi i like the antron 99 very good antenna. and very easy to put up and not that noticable

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